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Re: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - Dirgah de zimwess - 04-04-2009

cah_gemblungsepur Wrote:Hebat2 orang eropa jaman segitu aja dah bkn "monster" tp apa ya perannya sangat signifikan pada saat perang?atau cmn bt nyiutin nyali musuh aja ya?
ooo......iyaya ngehindar nggak bisa, cabut relnya takluklah dia........

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - we supratman - 01-07-2009


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These photos, contributed by Brooks Rowlett (brooksar@indy.net), illustrate the large calibre (14") naval guns, known as railway guns, which served on the Western Front. The bulk of the photos are taken from The United States Railway Batteries in France, (Naval Historical Center, Washington DC, 1988). Another good source (if you can find it!) is the article Development of America's Large Bore Mobile Guns by Robert D. Fritz, in the Number 2, 1973 issue of Warship International.



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Railway Artillery. Italy, August 1944.
In quite a few of my writings I have mentioned a railway gun that fired a large shell from a long distance. On doing some research from a book a friend at the Nanaimo museum loaned me, I came up with these facts. The Gun was a 28cm listed as a K5[E]. This massive gun had a range of over 38 miles and fired a shell weighing 563.38 pounds. Here I thought initially that the shells were in the three hundred pound class. No wonder when they hit a stone building that the building's walls would disintegrate. Apparently only two ww2 railway guns still are in existence. One in France and one at the Aberdeen Proving ground in USA. This gun certainly seemed accurate as it rained death and destruction all around us. The Germans were good gunners and this gun would be run out of a tunnel, fired then retreat into the tunnel to reload. The desert airforce was always on the look out to destroy this monster. Pieces from the exploding shells carried for hundreds of feet and were not particular who they or what they hit. I do not remember this gun after we had left the Montemaggorie area thank goodness. Just thought I would include these facts for anyone interested in such a gun.


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The railway gun in the photo can be seen outside the the Atlantic wall museum at Audinghen France.

There was three guns in the Calais, Wimereux area. The guns could fire across the channel the shells landed in and around Dover between 1942 to 1944.

When the guns were not being used they were moved. With there transport and hidden in quarries in the area.

Most of the guns were maintained by the German navy

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - Iksan derailment - 02-07-2009

wahh, koleksi nya kang ipenk bagus2 yak..
sepur kok sepur buat perang...tapi apa sekarang masih digunakan kang jika sewaktu-waktu ada perang?

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - rifqipahlevie - 05-07-2009

ada yg tau game Commandos ga? game strategi perang dunia II... di Commandos 2 sama 3 ada adegan ngancurin Jembatan Kereta, Rel sama tembak-tembakan diatas Gerbong.... wih keren bgt...


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RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - we supratman - 05-07-2009

(02-07-2009, 11:23 PM)Iksan derailment Wrote: wahh, koleksi nya kang ipenk bagus2 yak..
sepur kok sepur buat perang...tapi apa sekarang masih digunakan kang jika sewaktu-waktu ada perang?

sekedar share pengetahuan ajah kebetulan hobi ane di 2 macam bidang ini ( militer dan kereta api )

kalo nati pecah perang gak nutup kemungkinan senjat2 tsb dipake lagi walopun sangan kecil kemungkinan nya , di karenakan kurang fleksibelitas , kurang mobile , terlalu besar ukuran nya (untuk raillway gun)
malah jadi sasaran empuk bomber2 musuh karena ketiga sifat nya tadi ,
yg masih memungkinkan seperti kereta pembawa ICBM (inter continental cruise balistic missiles) seperti yg di punyai oleh russia , china dan korut , senjata ini mempunya nilai strategis karena sangup membawa hulu ledak nuklir dengan daya ledak 50x bom atom hiroshima dan daya jelajah nya yg jauh hingga antar benua

jika anda menanti senjata ini beraksi tunggu sampai WW3 pecah
"NAUZUBILLAH MIN ZALIK"
Sakit

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - we supratman - 06-07-2009

Adolf Hitler on board his train, c1941 (HS 6/624)

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ithe furer and Bennito Mussolini


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ini kereta special nya the furer

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - editpes - 04-10-2009

(02-03-2009, 12:01 PM)edwin_boyz Wrote: Gila bener keretanya mantep2 banget sesuai buat militer bener.Cuma masalahnya kapan indonesia punya seperti itu?? Pisss ahhh...

waduh,buat apa bro?
buat merangin anak kecil yang lemparin KA pake batu?
mending jangan deh,damai aja,jangan ada perang
gak kebayang tuh WW3,kalo WW4 kebayang deh

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - Haidar Murtadho - 04-10-2009

anak kecil di (≖᷆︵︣≖) juga nangis brow... damai aja napa? hehehehehehe

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - see_204XX - 05-10-2009

(04-10-2009, 01:56 PM)Haidar Murtadho Wrote: anak kecil di (≖᷆︵︣≖) juga nangis brow... damai aja napa? hehehehehehe

Please dech..., topiknya dilihat,Om...Xie Xie

RE: ARMORED TRAIN AND TRAIN AT WAR - Penjelajah - 08-10-2009

(24-10-2008, 12:55 AM)we supratman Wrote:
totok purwo Wrote:masalahnya ... deleted .... waduh ....

yang saya biru 2 in ituh justru momen yang saya pengen liat tuh om...Big Grin kalo dapet pic nya kan muantabs...Big Grin
kan dulu juga waktu jaman nya di/tii di daerah jawa barat kan setiap rangkaian KA yang mau ke bandung di atach sama tank AMX 13 di depan lok sama di belakang rangkaian . kalo menurut cerita di trit "ngobrol sama bapak"

Salam kenal mas, saya juga penggemar tekno militer (meski sudah ga begitu antusias sekarang). Saya baru tahu aplikasi AMX-13 dalam penumpasan DI/TII, apalagi mounted di KA segala. Tak kira separatis seperti TII cukup diatasi oleh Saladin atau Panhard M8 waktu itu. Jika Permesta punya senjata berat, wajarlah M3 Stuart dilibatkan.

Kang Ipenk pasti tahu, Hitler juga pernah merancang proyek super KA yang ambisius, yang sayangnya tak sempat terwujud karena WW II berakhir. Breitspurbahn ini memiliki gauge 3000 mm! Bandingkan dengan gauge di India yang "hanya" 1626 mm. Nama lokomotifnya Adler. Berikut spesifikasi lokomotifnya :
Panjang : terkecil 29 Meter, terpanjang 128 Meter.
Tinggi : 7 Meter
Penggerak : Perkiraan Steam-Turbo-Mechanical, Steam-Turbo-Electrical, Gas-Turbo-Electrical, Diesel-Hydraulic, Diesel-Electrical
Power : 24000 up to 40000 PS
Kecepatan : Dirancang hingga 250 Km/h
Kapasitas : 2000 to 4000 penumpang dalam 1 gerbong

Ilustrasi Breitspurbahn


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kereta model


Kereta penumpang Hitler dari kang Ipenk yang lain yaitu Erika (Nama ini di forum luar masih jadi perdebatan, ada yang mengatakan nama sebenarnya Amerika -sindirian untuk negara sekutu nih-. Ada pula yang mengatakan itu akronim dari nama pertama). Kereta pribadi Sang Fuhrer ini dirangkai dengan 2 gerbong pertahanan udara anti pesawat. Masing² dilengkapi 2 pucuk laras 4 (quadruple) 20 mm. Foto disini adalah kereta anti pesawatnya.


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Sayang fotonya beda dengan spesifikasi diatas. Disini hanya terlihat 2 pucuk 20 mm.
selingan :
kereta layar tentara Jerman


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